circles continued

Besides just loping short peices of circles then stoppin and turning around a little to the outside or rolling back which has all helped a bunch I also starte doing a lot more of taking the hind end out of gear ie when the horse cant neck rein in a nice arced circle to the left kick the hip out to the right- head to the left- cue with the neck rein then pull with the left direct rein until the nose is soft and the left hind steps over the right hind and out of gear- also it works when loping to come down to a walk - kick the hind end out of gear a few times- then you can work on using the inside leg to keep the rip up in the circles- also it gives the horse something to think about besides schooling to keep the shoulder up loping circles- one more tool to keep them off balance mentaly so they wont lean in. Works good.